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Analysis of Matt & Bob Show 03-16-2023

Food items/restaurants talked about:

  • Silver Metal – Matt got a hamburger with extra hot sauce, jalapeΓ±os, bacon, blue cheese, double patty (22:32)
  • El Dorado Cafe – Chuy and Mandy had a big breakfast there that made Chuy need to take a nap (07:37)
  • Mention of eating peanut butter out of the jar (15:02)
  • Eating ribs mentioned in passing (03:28)

News stories talked about during this portion:

  • Daylight Savings Time complaints – Discussion about how it’s been difficult since the 1960s, causes more heart attacks and car wrecks the Monday/week after, bill passed Senate but stalled in House (08:40-10:02)
  • Austin wants to hire a full-time bat biologist – Austin Animal Advisory Commission voted to recommend hiring someone to manage bat population, monitor habitats, etc. (40:45-42:00)
  • Austin apartment sizes shrinking – Newer apartments averaging 884 square feet while prices remain the same (42:27)

What was the “Click Click Boom” segment about? Clickbait news mentioned:

Topic: “20 photos of human bodies that are actually wild to look at” (11:55-20:20)

Clickbait items discussed:

  • Child skulls showing all adult teeth already formed inside (12:12)
  • Anonychia congenita – people born without fingernails (13:49)
  • Close-up of human eye (16:21)
  • Ink spreading over skin (16:21)
  • Goosebumps/hair standing up explained (16:27)
  • Teratoma tumors – tumors that can grow teeth, hair, and eyes (16:51-19:45)
  • Parasitic twin growing inside someone’s skull – looks like a curled up manatee fetus (19:00)

Funny moments or memorable quotes during this portion:

  • Matt’s dream about comedian Jasmine Ellis – She had a “brand new Glock” car that was shaped like a gun and had to be started by pulling a cord like a lawnmower (05:25-06:47)
  • Chuy’s dream about Matt – Matt came into Chuy’s bed and asked to take a nap, then found a bra on the nightstand (07:00-07:45)
  • Debate about what constitutes a “nap” vs “sleep” – Extended absurd argument about whether 15 minutes before bed counts as a nap, with analogies to fasting and eating snacks (22:05-25:40). Matt: “Everyone’s mad at us right now because we sound like idiots.” (24:01)
  • Mandy’s passionate rant about daylight savings – “There’s no tradition with daylight savings. This thing has only been around since the fricking sixties.” (08:40)
  • Chuy describing the hand without fingernails: “It looks like an uncircumcised penis” and “It looks like a face with no eyes” (14:10)
  • Matt’s reaction to teratoma: “Your body is disgusting. Get away from it.” (20:02)
  • Discussion about Dave Coulier getting oral sex in a theater during Alanis Morissette’s “You Oughta Know”: “Uncle Joey getting a slob” – Matt wondering what movie they were watching (38:30)

Phone callers this portion:

Mandy (08:32-11:00)

  • Called to complain about daylight savings time
  • Explained it’s not for farmers/agriculture despite common belief
  • Frustrated about having to be at work at 6:45am while others are late
  • Discussed Germany’s mandatory 6-week vacation policy
  • Matt and Chuy sympathized with her being tired

Bob’s Rock and Roll News segment – 5 paragraph summary:

Bob Fonseca was out for the day, so Matt Bearden filled in for the Rock and Roll News segment. The first major story covered former Pink Floyd star Roger Waters taking legal action against the entire country of Germany after authorities in Frankfurt and Munich cancelled two of his concerts. German officials cited his continued anti-Israel behavior as the reason for the cancellations, with Germany notably sensitive about being associated with such positions given their historical past. Waters’ art management in London claims the accusations are unjust and warned that attempts to silence Waters could set a dangerous precedent for artists and activists worldwide, potentially preventing artists from making political statements for 10-15 years.

The segment then covered U2’s The Edge finally revealing the origin of his famous nickname after years of mystery. In a radio interview, guitarist David Evans explained that his nickname came from the shape of his face, specifically his chin. He shared that everyone in the band had nicknames during their early days – Larry Mullen was called “Jam Jar,” Adam Clayton was nicknamed “Mrs. Burns,” and Bono’s stage name came from shortening “Bono Vox of O’Connell Street,” which translates to “beautiful voice of O’Connell Street” in Latin. The revelation solved a long-standing mystery about one of rock’s most iconic stage names.

The Cure’s Robert Smith made headlines by calling Ticketmaster’s dynamic pricing policy “a bit of a scam.” Smith explained that while his band was initially convinced that Ticketmaster’s verified fan page and face value ticket exchange could help fight scalpers, they refused to participate in the dynamic pricing/price surging platinum ticket scheme. He distinguished between the verified fan method, which he supports because it makes it more difficult for resellers to buy tickets, and the controversial dynamic pricing system. The Cure is kicking off a tour series in May with these consumer-friendly ticket policies in place.

The Rock and Roll News Junior segment featured a story about Miley Cyrus and Rolling Stone’s new podcast episode dedicated to her career. Matt described her incredibly diverse career trajectory at just 30 years old, calling her a “Disney star, a can’t be tamed teen, a twerking hit maker, a flaming lips affiliated lysergic explorer, a rootsy singer songwriter, a classic rock cover artist, an eighties revivalist, a Dolly Parton stan,” and praising her appearance in Black Mirror. The Rolling Stone Music Now podcast series is available at rollingstone.com for listeners wanting to hear the full story of her unpredictable career path.

Matt concluded the segment with a rock and roll shout out “to the ladies out there that really can twerk. We enjoy watching you clap that ass.” He signed off by noting that while “it ain’t VIP without B.O.B.,” you also “can’t TT without M-A-T-T,” creating his own catchphrase to fill in for Bob Fonseca’s regular sign-off.

Rock and roll shoutout/salute:

Yes – Matt gave a “rock and roll shout out” to “the ladies out there that really can twerk. We enjoy watching you clap that ass.” (33:08)

Bands talked about during Bob’s rock and roll news segment:

  • Pink Floyd (Roger Waters)
  • U2 (The Edge/David Evans)
  • The Cure (Robert Smith)
  • Fleetwood Mac (Stevie Nicks, Lindsey Buckingham, Mick Fleetwood)
  • Miley Cyrus (mentioned in Rock and Roll News Junior)

3 paragraph summary of this portion of the show – excluding Bob’s Rock and Roll news:

The show opened with Matt Bearden and Chuy El Dorado hosting without Bob Fonseca, who was out for the remainder of the week. The dominant theme of the first portion was exhaustion from daylight savings time, with both hosts struggling to wake up in the mornings. Matt shared a bizarre dream about comedian Jasmine Ellis owning a car made by Glock that had to be started like a lawnmower, while Chuy revealed he’d dreamed about Matt climbing into his bed for a nap. This led to an extended, somewhat absurd debate about what constitutes a “nap” versus “sleep,” with Chuy defending his increasingly long afternoon naps (sometimes up to five hours) as necessary recuperation, while Matt argued that anything over 90 minutes can’t be classified as a nap. Caller Mandy joined to passionately rant about daylight savings time, explaining it’s only been around since the 1960s, isn’t actually for farmers, and causes increased heart attacks and accidents.

The show’s “Click Click Boom” segment dove into disturbing clickbait titled “20 photos of human bodies that are actually wild to look at.” Matt walked Chuy through several shocking medical images, including child skulls showing all their adult teeth already formed inside, people born without fingernails (anonychia congenita), and the particularly disturbing teratoma tumors that can grow teeth, hair, and even primitive eyes. The most shocking image was a parasitic twin that had grown inside someone’s skull, which looked like a “curled up manatee fetus.” Both hosts were genuinely disturbed by the images, with Matt declaring “Your body is disgusting. Get away from it” and Chuy joking that Greg Abbott would try to protect the parasitic twin. The segment highlighted their chemistry as Matt described the images while Chuy provided humorous commentary.

The final portion included discussion of the new show “Daisy Jones and the Six,” which was inspired by Fleetwood Mac’s 1997 reunion concert “The Dance.” This led to Matt telling the story of Stevie Nicks’ song “Silver Springs,” which she wrote as an angry breakup song directed at Lindsey Buckingham, explicitly stating she wanted him to hear it on the radio for the rest of his life and be bothered by it. The conversation expanded into other revenge songs by artists, including Alanis Morissette’s “You Oughta Know” about Dave Coulier, which led to uncomfortable jokes about “Uncle Joey” receiving oral sex in a movie theater. Local news included Austin potentially hiring a full-time “bat biologist” to manage the city’s bat population, with Matt joking they should have to wear a 1960s Adam West-style Batman costume, and a story about Austin apartments shrinking in size while maintaining the same prices.

⏰ Second Hour Analysis ⏰

Radio Show Analysis: Matt & Bob 03-16-2023

Food items/restaurants talked about:

  • Baldinucci Pizza Romana (Bee Caves Road) – Roman-style pizza, formerly a ghost kitchen in Westlake, now brick and mortar. Sausage and honey pizza mentioned.
  • Dovetail Pizza (South First, Bolton Creek neighborhood) – Hybrid of New York and Neapolitan styles, collaboration from Salt and Time folks and Todd Dupulcan of Lenoir
  • Samotaro Pizza (East 12th, new location at 900 West 10th/10th and Lamar) – Has a truck and brick and mortar
  • Pedroso’s Pizza (Burnet Road near Night Owl Bar) – Fresh mozzarella mentioned
  • Side Eye Pie (Promontory Point in Burleson) – Food truck at Meanwhile Brewing Company, uses Texas red wheat flour and native yeast from Barton Spring Mill
  • Love Supreme Pizza Bar (Manor near Airport) – Opened by same person who opened Bird Bird Biscuit
  • Pizza Cave (Dripping Springs) – Mentioned by caller Joe
  • Nomad Bar – Where Miguel is the owner, discussed extensively
  • Interstellar – Mentioned for burnt ends and brisket
  • Franklin’s – BBQ mentioned
  • Salt and Time – Butcher shop mentioned
  • Lenoir – Restaurant mentioned
  • Easy Tigers – Mentioned in conversation with Miguel
  • Pedroso’s or “Bedrosos” – Listener promotes weekly
  • Eddie V’s – Fine dining restaurant mentioned in wine discussion
  • Yellow Tail wine and Barefoot wine – Mentioned as cheap wines
  • Smart Water, Dasani, Ozarka, Fiji – Bottled water brands discussed
  • Red Bull, Monster, Bang, C4 – Energy drink brands discussed

News stories talked about during this portion:

  • Apartment sizes in Austin (42:43) – Average size of newer Austin apartments is smaller than Houston (923 sq ft), San Antonio (900 sq ft), and Dallas (900 sq ft). Austin apartments losing about 30 square feet on average.
  • Standby Apartmenting (43:47) – New trend where you can live in Austin for $1,300/month (33% below national median), fully furnished, but you can get 3 days notice to move. One woman living in a unit normally $3,500/month for $1,300.
  • Fentanyl Education Bill (45:09) – “Tucker’s Law” proposed by Terry Wilson of Georgetown would require fentanyl education in Texas schools. Fentanyl is 50 times stronger than heroin, 100 times stronger than morphine. Death of a Leander teen is inspiring the bill.
  • Fentanyl Murder Charges (46:45) – Another proposed bill would make it murder if you sell fentanyl to someone and they die.
  • Austin Chronicle’s Best New Pizzas (49:47) – Article by Wayne Allen Brenner and Melanie Hopped reviewing new pizza places in Austin.

Predictions made during this portion:

  • Matt predicts his kids will never go to Disney (1:12:48)

Interesting facts shared during this portion:

  • Average Austin apartment size losing 30 square feet (about the size of a washroom)
  • Standby apartments can save 33% below national median rent in Austin
  • Fentanyl is 50 times stronger than heroin, 100 times stronger than morphine
  • Almost 100% of people who die from fentanyl did not intend to take it (46:24)
  • College degrees no longer guarantee 200-300% more earnings over lifetime like they did in the 1960s (1:05:25)

Phone callers this portion:

  • Patrick (58:35) – Called about getting “McGilled” (drunk at Nomad Bar with Miguel), missed work, calling in hungover while cuddling with his dog
  • Miguel (1:06:54) – Owner of Nomad Bar, called to defend his reputation after being blamed for people getting drunk and missing work
  • Caller about pizza (58:11) – Mentioned being McGilled
  • Justin (1:11:21) – Said Disney in general (theme parks, Disney Plus) is overrated
  • Joe (1:12:57) – Said barbecue is overrated/overpriced, recommended Pizza Cave in Dripping Springs
  • Brian (1:15:57) – Said car insurance is overrated, shared story about accident where other driver wouldn’t answer phone
  • Kathy (1:19:46) – Complained about paying $25 for a $5 bottle of wine at restaurants
  • Boyd (1:21:13) – 22-year-old who thinks college is overrated
  • Marilyn (1:23:33) – Started to mention pet insurance is overrated (call cut off in transcript)

Funny or memorable quotes this portion:

  • “You can’t mention something that already sucks, that’s not rated high. Overrated means people are going gaga for it, but they shouldn’t be buying it.” (1:02:47)
  • “This is a brand new idea that no one’s ever come up with, Chewie.” (about an appetizers-only restaurant called “Apus”) (58:00)
  • “I think you’re describing Chili’s, to be honest.” (58:28)
  • “Now you’re just trying to actually get people angry.” – Chewie’s response to Matt saying MCU movies are overrated (1:09:17)
  • “This show is overrated, but you’re getting it for free.” (1:11:06)
  • Miguel: “You guys gotta take responsibility for your own actions. I just give you the ability to say, hey, we’re going to the grocery store, and next thing you know, three days go by, and you come back with a face tattoo from Mexico. That’s not my fault.” (1:08:21)
  • “I’ve known multiple people who have tried to do it on-property and then off-property. And they’re like, well, I can save some money by staying off-property. And then they end up saying, yeah, I end up spending the same GD amount of money.” – About Disney trips (1:12:00)

Recurring jokes or gags:

  • Getting “McGilled” – Ongoing joke about Miguel from Nomad Bar being too good of a host and people drinking too much when hanging out with him
  • Chewie showing pictures of appetizers instead of pizza – While discussing pizza, Chewie kept showing Matt pictures of appetizers (fried okra, cheese sticks) instead of the pizzas they were supposed to be reviewing
  • Matt’s five-hour nap – Referenced that Chewy took a five-hour “nap” and doesn’t follow any schedule (49:17)

Five Paragraph Summary:

The middle portion of this Matt & Bob radio show episode covered a wide range of topics, beginning with a discussion about Austin’s shrinking apartment sizes and a new trend called “standby apartmenting” where renters can live in furnished apartments for significantly reduced rates but must be willing to move on short notice. The conversation then shifted to a serious news topic about proposed legislation in Texas requiring fentanyl education in schools, inspired by the death of a Leander teen. The hosts discussed how fentanyl is 50 times stronger than heroin and that nearly all fentanyl deaths are unintentional, contrasting this real danger with the exaggerated scare tactics of the Reagan-era war on drugs.

A major segment of the show focused on pizza, with the hosts reviewing the Austin Chronicle’s list of best new pizza restaurants in the city. They discussed six establishments including Baldinucci Pizza Romana’s Roman-style focaccia-like pizza, Dovetail Pizza’s New York-Neapolitan hybrid, Samotaro Pizza, Pedroso’s Pizza, Side Eye Pie at Meanwhile Brewing Company, and Love Supreme Pizza Bar. The discussion included details about crust styles, toppings, and the hosts’ personal pizza preferences, with Matt favoring a big floppy New York slice and Chewy admitting he often focuses more on appetizers than entrees.

The show’s main topic became “Question of the Day: What’s something that’s overrated that people still pay for?” This generated substantial listener participation with numerous phone calls. Matt controversially suggested college education is overrated, explaining that while it was once a guarantee of significantly higher lifetime earnings, it no longer provides the same return on investment. He distinguished between classical liberal arts education (which he values) and vocational training, arguing that many students are accumulating debt unnecessarily. Other items deemed overrated included energy drinks, MCU superhero movies, steakhouse steaks, Disney theme parks, meal prepping, weddings, new smartphones, and car insurance.

A memorable moment occurred when a hungover caller named Patrick phoned in about getting “McGilled,” referring to drinking too much at Nomad Bar with owner Miguel. This led to Miguel himself calling the show to defend his reputation, insisting that people need to take responsibility for their own actions and that he’s simply a charming host who gets unfairly blamed when his friends drink too much and miss work the next day. The exchange was humorous and revealed an ongoing inside joke among the show’s personalities about Miguel’s hospitality being dangerously effective.

The segment wrapped up with continued caller participation on the overrated topic, including discussions about barbecue pricing (with Matt defending BBQ restaurants given the cost of briskets and labor involved), restaurant wine markups, and college education. The 22-year-old caller Boyd confirmed that younger listeners tune in, which Matt appreciated for countering advertiser perceptions that the show only attracts older audiences. Throughout the portion, the hosts maintained their conversational chemistry, with Matt often taking more controversial stances and Chewy providing counterpoints and comedic relief, particularly with his focus on appetizers and admission that he doesn’t follow schedules well.

πŸ• Third Hour Analysis πŸ•

Analysis of Matt & Bob Show (03-16-2023) – Final Third

Food or restaurants talked about during this portion:

  • 01:23:57 – Pet insurance discussion (tangential food reference to peanut butter and chocolate as dangerous for dogs)
  • 01:27:04 – Cheap Trick trivia game references P. Terry’s burgers ($2.90 hamburger with no cheese) and notes it’s an Austin original expanding rapidly
  • 01:35:36 – Matt paid $22 for two Lone Star tall boys at a South by Southwest venue (describes it as “South by Southwest Pricing”)
  • 01:36:42 – Cooper’s Barbecue mentioned as location of 101X day party with $5 Bud and Bud Light pints
  • 01:41:23 – Matt’s family attended the rodeo where they ate “all the best fair food”
  • 01:49:48 – Extended discussion about queso and chip ratios at various restaurants, particularly Chipotle and Taco Cabana
  • 01:50:28 – Matt complains about “chip charges” at restaurants when requesting additional chips with queso
  • 01:57:32 – Discussion about ketchup-to-fries ratio at fast food restaurants, particularly McDonald’s
  • 01:59:29 – Reference to a place “famous for the spicy ketchup”
  • 02:00:27 – Long John Silver’s mentioned as potential lunch destination

Interesting facts shared during this portion:

  • 01:24:53 – Pet insurance requires you to pay upfront for veterinary care and then get reimbursed later (not like human insurance)
  • 01:25:53 – Pet insurance policies typically only cover the same incident once – won’t reimburse for repeated occurrences of the same issue
  • 01:46:30 – Goldfish can live 10-15 years (according to information shared during the show)

Memorable moments during this portion:

  • 01:23:57 – Caller explains the complexities of pet insurance, including the surprising detail that it only reimburses once per incident
  • 01:27:04-01:33:27 – Trivia competition between Tammy and Ross for Steve Miller Band and Cheap Trick tickets, themed around “cheap” places. Tammy dominated early (winning “garage sale,” “swag,” and “Goodwill” questions), Ross caught up (winning “Milwaukee’s Best” and “Ross” store questions), and they tied 3-3, requiring multiple tiebreakers including T.J. Maxx and ultimately both receiving tickets when neither could answer the final questions
  • 01:41:23-01:47:32 – Matt’s extended rant about his family winning a goldfish at the rodeo. His wife texted “We ended up with a goldfish. I am sorry and I am filled with regret.” Matt is upset because: 1) He wasn’t there to prevent it, 2) His son named it “Tangerine,” 3) His wife bought an enormous illuminated aquarium instead of a simple bowl, 4) He predicts this will lead to requests for more pets
  • 01:49:48-01:56:19 – Matt’s passionate “reading rights” segment complaining about chip-to-queso ratios at restaurants, with Chewie surprisingly taking the corporate side and defending restaurants, frustrating Matt who expected solidarity
  • 02:00:27 – Chewy admits he broke his “no eating out” resolution after only about 15-16 days, with plans to hit Long John Silver’s

Guests on the show:

  • 01:33:42-01:40:43 – Johnny Rude (normally heard 7pm-midnight on the station) joined to promote the Cooper’s Barbecue day party for South by Southwest featuring bands like Grand Canyon, Rundown Creeps, Son of the Saint, Caban, and Willawake. He mentioned the promoter from LA got sick with flu, so Johnny had to handle coordinating 16 bands himself with his phone “blowing up at 6:30am”

Callers this portion:

  • 01:23:57-01:26:03 – Caller discussing pet insurance (Many Pet insurance specifically) for their dog, explaining the reimbursement system and concerns about their dog potentially running into the street

“This or That” segment:

Who was being asked: Tammy vs. Ross (competing for Steve Miller Band and Cheap Trick tickets)

Questions and answers (01:27:04-01:33:27):

  • “Great place to get a discount where you can haggle for a great rate with a homeowner in front of their house” – Tammy answered: Garage sale βœ“
  • “Cheap marijuana you had to take seeds and stems out of” – Tammy answered: Swag βœ“
  • “Beer in a 12 pack nicknamed The Beast from a state up north” – Ross answered: Milwaukee’s Best βœ“
  • “Place where you can get clothing, recently got golf clubs from” – Ross guessed “Pawn shop” βœ—, Tammy answered: Goodwill βœ“
  • “Popular for sundresses, where men, women, and children can dress for less” – Ross answered: Ross (the store) βœ“
  • “Burger place expanding fast, Austin original, $2.90 hamburger with no cheese, blue establishment” – Ross answered: P. Terry’s βœ“

Tiebreaker questions:

  • “Clothing and homewares for cheap, two initials and a name” – Ross guessed “J.C. Penney” βœ—, Tammy answered: T.J. Maxx βœ“
  • “Buy one thing and get four other things for free at HEB” – Ross guessed “Dollar deals” βœ—, Tammy guessed “Weekly meal special” βœ— (Answer was “BOGO/Buy One Get One”)
  • “Store with two names, can’t get Hamburger Helper but can get Skillet Friend” – Ross guessed “Sam’s Club” βœ—, neither got it (Answer was likely Aldi)

Result: After multiple tiebreaker attempts, both contestants received tickets

Predictions made during this portion:

  • 01:46:35 – Matt predicted the goldfish wouldn’t survive the night (he lost this bet – the fish was alive in the morning)
  • 01:47:01 – Matt predicts his son will eventually request more fish or other pets (frog, toad, or skink) to accompany Tangerine in the large aquarium

5 Paragraph Summary:

The final third of the show began with an educational discussion about pet insurance, where a caller explained the surprising details that it requires upfront payment with reimbursement later and only covers each incident once. This led into a competitive trivia segment between Tammy and Ross competing for Steve Miller Band and Cheap Trick concert tickets, with questions themed around “cheap” establishments. After Tammy dominated early and Ross caught up to tie 3-3, multiple tiebreaker questions failed to produce a winner, resulting in both contestants receiving tickets when Chewy revealed they had an extra pair available.

Johnny Rude joined the show to promote the 101X South by Southwest day party at Cooper’s Barbecue, discussing the lineup of rock bands and mentioning that the LA promoter got sick, leaving him to coordinate all 16 bands solo. Matt shared his experience with “South by Southwest pricing,” having paid $22 for two Lone Star tall boys at a venue, though he acknowledged businesses have the right to maximize profits during the event. The conversation highlighted the contrast between tourist pricing downtown and the more reasonable $5 Bud Light pints at the Cooper’s venue.

The show’s most passionate segment came when Matt launched into an extended rant about his family winning a goldfish at the rodeo. His wife’s apologetic text – “We ended up with a goldfish. I am sorry and I am filled with regret” – set off Matt’s frustration about not being there to prevent the incident. His complaints centered on his wife purchasing an enormous illuminated aquarium instead of a simple bowl, his son naming the fish “Tangerine” (making it harder to dispose of emotionally), and his prediction that this would spiral into requests for additional pets to keep the goldfish company.

Matt then “read the rights” of Austin restaurants regarding their chip-to-queso ratios, expressing outrage that many establishments don’t provide enough chips for takeout orders or charge extra “chip charges” for additional chips when dining in. Surprisingly, Chewy took the corporate side, defending businesses and suggesting economic pressures justified their portion control, which frustrated Matt who expected solidarity on this passionate food-ratio issue. The debate extended to ketchup-to-fries ratios at fast food restaurants, with Matt arguing the last fry should pick up the last bit of ketchup for proper satisfaction.

The show concluded with announcements about upcoming events, including Mojo Nixon’s scheduled studio appearance the next day and the first-ever Bob Fonseca Rock and Roll Trivia event on March 26 at Moon Tower Saloon. The afternoon event (3-5pm) promises multiple pairs of concert tickets, gifts from Tabu Lingerie, and potentially exclusive stickers. Matt encouraged listeners to attend the Cooper’s Barbecue day party that afternoon, emphasizing the free admission, live rock bands, and opportunity to see the station personalities, before heading there himself after the show ended.

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